New Editor Dangers
I can only assume that the new editor is in some way responsible for the rash of psycho-level asterisk and other "extra dots" issues appearing on this and many other pages. Whoever is editing this page please refrain from using the new editing tools, as they are sabotaging the page format.Fulongamer 03:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I vaguely remember that Cheyenne Mountain (in the real world) was shut down a while ago. I think I heard it on a Stargate commentary or so that they couldn't go get more footage of "the tunnel entrance" because of that (Stargate Control is also supposedly below the NORAD offices there). I wonder whether TTSCC will address that. Anyone know what happened to Cheyenne Mountain exactly, and when? Did I mix something up? -- Uliwitness 00:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
AI feelings and emotions
As Camaron declares in E209 she has feelings and otherwise would be useless. Unless she is a machine, she never forgets to remind John, he cannot be happy as f.e. in E208 on his bed.
This is a very interesting point in my eyes. Why should machines be unable to have emotions - ya, not necesserily like us - but some kind of. An evidence for emotions felt by machines is the godfather of all machines "Skynet". It belongs to his ability to be curious and (as Andy states) to feel angry as well as to be scared (unfortunatelly about mankind). --Patriko 16:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Do NOT make the mistake of equating the capacity to recognize sensation (feel) with the capacity to experience emotion (feel). both may use the same common word, but are entirely different. Cameron admits she can have sensation, that is what is required to make her useful. She does not say she has emotions, and in several instances explicitly states she DOES NOT have emotions.Fulongamer 18:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, her exact quote mentions the word "feel" several times. The one thing I did thing was interesting was how she said that John doesn't understand how she works.
- Also, Cameron is acting more "human" due to the damage from her chip. That's interesting... I wonder if that's why John may develop feelings for her in the future? --Kanamekun 18:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thx for your answers. Cameron explains the diffrence between feeling and emotion in the last episode saying she only can feel (thanks to her sensation). But take a look on Skynet. He developed some kind of conciousness and he was able to have the emotion "angry" or "scared" (Andy explains that in Dungeons and Dragons). --Patriko 18:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that a lot of Skynet's tech ideas have come from humans, and then been mass produced by Skynet.
A few examples:
- Miles Dyson helped build a powerful Neural Net Processor CPU, which later become Skynet's AI (and the terminators' AI too)
- According to the T-800 wiki article, Skynet got the idea for the T-800 endoskeleton from Cyberdyne/CRS research.
It seems that Skynet is capable of limited creativity, as when they eliminated aging from skin and muscle cells (based on human research): "As part of our scientific progression, mankind has unraveled the human genome and we were able to identify the genes which control cell life-span and degradation. Using this information, stored within its vast databases, Skynet has been able to eliminate these unwanted genes from cells prior to industrially growing biological components for the T-800's."
But is there an example where Skynet has demonstrated true innovative thinking? A few specifics:
- Did Skynet invent the method to grow living tissue over the endoskeleton? (which was just featured in "The Turk" TV episode)
- Did Skynet invent time travel? (According to the novelization of T3, it did not - but is there other canon?)
- Did Skynet invent Phased Plasma Cannons? (Maybe these already exist in our RL, I don't know).
In general, I'm just wondering if Skynet has been credited with doing something truly creative. Let me know your thoughts! Either way, I can start a "Creativity" section in the article mapping our our findings. Thanks :-). --Kanamekun 15:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just for curiosity. How does T3 explain that Skynet didn't build the time machine? Ascaaear 16:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I´m bot sure, if this is true for the original Skynet, before time travelling was developed. I guess it was the original Skynet who invented a couple of things but when he sent his machines through time, the relicts of destroyed terminators were used to develop some technology by humans, which originally was developed by Skynet. Cyberdyne Sys just copied the terminator stuff after it was already created in another timeline. Back in the days of the original Judgment Day a couple of things had to be invented by skynet itself, but while pushing JD to later time points, Mankind invented them.
I was wondering if skynet ever allowed itself a physical embodiment? i know it did in superman v terminator and that it was called Sky-1, but is there any other actual, novelised, semi-canon time where skynet takes control over a terminator or has an actual physical embodiment? Smeagan 09:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Skynet´s informations about the past
I am wondering why Skynet has no idea how Sarah Connor looks like (Terminator I), or how John Connor looks like (in Terminator II as well as in TSCC). Same for Martin Bedell (TSCC) or any other of John´s future generals. But he has exact knowledge about the outward appearance of James Ellison (at his age in 2007) to exactly reconstruct a machine after him. --Patriko 14:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Kyle Reese: All of the records were lost in the war, Skynet knew almost nothing about Connor's mother. All it had was a date and a location. The machine was just being systematic. -- Does this answer your question? :) Darth Raivon 15:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe not fully, but thanks for answering so fast :) It was not so much Skynet didn´t know about the Connors but more his exact knowledge about James Ellison. Do you have an idea where he might have it from? It might be a sign of special relationship between JE and S.--Patriko 15:44, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Interestingly, we don't know for sure that the future Skynet had knowledge of Agent Ellison's looks. Cromartie copied George Lazlo in the present... maybe Skynet did the same thing here. Or maybe Skynet figure out how to construct endos in the present, like Serena Burns did in the books! --Kanamekun 15:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- The James Ellison-Terminator arrived as James Ellison. It had no surgery in the present. So Skynet knows at least how James Ellison looks like. --Akagi01 16:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Ah you're right, there was a witness that saw him appear naked in a crater like generated by a time displacement sphere. My bad... --Kanamekun 16:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Even without a witness seeing the JE-Terminator with own eyes we could conclude Skynet has exact information about James Ellison since the endo needs to fit to the agent´s body (body height, etc. A copy of JE, that is only 5.7.. would not be very authentic). That´s what a surgery wouldn´t change.--Patriko 17:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I guess we may never know how Skynet amassed its knowledge... Maybe it found an iPod amongst the wreckage or something. ;) Darth Raivon 18:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Remember everyone, Skynet IS all of our Federal government computers. Civillian/state computers such as would hold the records of Sarah's delivery of John are unimportant, and in the 80's not that interlinked, the FBI personel database is not only at, but probably IS one of its fingertips. Data on any and all Federal employees, Civil, military, or otherwise would be simple to reference. IE: Nuclear Regulatory Commision/Naval Service records = Greenway. FBI Database = Ellison, Sector/CIA datasbase = VonRossbach, Air Force Service records = Candy.Fulongamer 17:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have images of the Skynet Core from T2-3D? - Nx1701g 03:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Skynet Time Travel
Why would sky net waste time and resources to terminate a person or persons of little significance in the orginal time line and in doing so put it's own existance at risk rather than build up stratgic resources such as raw matrial, manufactoring plants, weapons, combat units and systems such as Terminators to better increase it's chance of winning the war. You see if the orginal time line did take place without time travel intervension or TTI but whi those advents would never take place forcing time to revert back to it's orginal time line cuasing a quantum loop where the time line keeps looping back on it's self meaning no future advents could take place? ~ Awar 12:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- Essentially the only reason to time travel is if you yourself go through time and effect the changes you desire. If you are standing in front of a time machine and you send something through, you are destroying it. You can't assume whatever or whoever you send will accomplish anything because you will never know. It/they are NOT going back to your past, but instead creating a new timeline and new future, one where you may or may not even exist. However, if you send yourself back, you can live your life making new decisions and choosing a different path for the future. Timetravel will not win a war, nor guarantee prevention of a war, it merely gives you a second life. What would a psychotic computer do with no humans around anyway? Doesen't sound like happy-fun times to me! Perhaps the infiltrater models will become actors and portray humans in a Skynet TV series...good practice....Grimace427 12:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Skynet her self
Dont remove that pic, it is really Skynet her self, it is a face on a big screen, then it scans through its face as you can see on the picture, and she says "This is the end... of humanity" --NooBiBoy 11:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
It's not that it should have been removed, it should have placed at the bottom of the page where people who haven't yet seen the movie (which includes most of us at this point) wouldn't have the concept spoiled for us. Think about that before you post a picture. That completely spoiled the whole movie for me. -Sec_1971 21:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
LoL -.- --NooBiBoy 19:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I was just watching T: Salvation when I noticed the structures on screen when Marcus accessed Skynet's computers. They seem to be bucky balls. Could that be how Skynet stores information? Erca 00:14, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Unmentioned/Unknown, possibly just its appearance in the monitor. --TX55TALK 01:58, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering, if Skynet was reverse engineered from the T-800 CPU in the T2 time line, how did the very first one, in the original time line, without the time displacement stuff, get created? Sgt. Redford 19:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- Naturally created without reverse engineering. A time travel mission could result a new timeline. --TX55TALK 02:21, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
I know, I was just wondering who, how, and when? Sgt. Redford 16:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)