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I totally appreciate your pushing on sources for some of the more obscure data... since so much of that material comes from the comic books and video games, I think it's especially important to source it all (so we can establish how canon it is).
In any case, welcome to the wiki! Looking forward to working together :-)
--Kanamekun 04:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I just saw your work with the section of the naming of "terminators". Great work! I like it. Just one suggestion. What do you think about moving the column "common names" before "official designation", and bold the text? Most people know the terminators by this, so people would probably look after that name, and beside we dont have all official designations on the terminators either.
I take that the column "Official Designation" are to be the technical name taken by a source. I am little concerned about using "Cyberdyne System/Cyber Research" in the "Official Designation" column, on models we don't know if they are. We can of course assume they are, but it wouldn't be correct use the name if we dont know. Or what do you think? BTW. The T-70 would probably not be a "Cyberdyne System" model, since it comes from a sequel of T2, and they blow up Cyberdyne there. If we follow the timeline up to T3, it would at least be a "Cyber Research" model. But it doesn't say anywhere, so I think we should leave it out.
I also thought about the T-1000000. I always assumed the numbers are the most correct way to name it (since Skynet used numbers on the previous models) and not spelling it "one million". Why would Skynet start name there robots like this? Spelling numbers is something humans do, not machines. Beside I never seen that last variant used anywhere at all. I just seen the T2:3D on Youtube, and "Arnold" name it "T-1000000", but still it is not spelled anywhere. I also read that James Cameron used the name "T-Meg", which I dont doubt at all, but I guess he used it because its faster and easier to say "t-one-million". People say and use different kinds of naming to refer to the terminators, but it doesn't make it "official" from Skynets point of view in naming the terminators. Or what do you say?
I just want to say you do a great job. Keep up the good work! Ascaaear 22:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah it's so funny you say that Ascaaear, I was thinking the first two columns could be switched too! Yah and this is a huge addition to the FAQ - thanks! --Kanamekun 22:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I also thought about that it would be nice if "Terminator", "Terminator 2" and "T2-3D" having its own section in the table, just like Terminator 3 and Sarah Connor Chronicles.
- Ascaaear 23:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think we have to think out of the box. There will be other people on this wiki which are not so much into the terminator universe, and it would be natural for them to look after the "common name". The "Official designation" are less known fact of the terminator, so its not a place where people would browse through.
- When using "Official" in the designation column, it sounds like it is actually is canon and used directly in a source. Maybe we can remove the word "official", and just call it "Designation"?
- The reason I concern about this is for "new" users and people who dont know much about the terminator franchise. For me its important to get it correct and avoid confuses.
- I still think the T-70 would not be a "Cyberdyne System Model", no matter what Kyle says, this is a total different timeline and things has changed. And as I said before, in T2-3D Cyberdyne doesn't exist. I can agree about using it on models which belongs into his timeline. There are a lot of new timelines which are created and things change all the time. That goes for all models.
- But its your work, so I think you should decide after all.
- BTW. What about dividing the Terminator, Terminator 2 and T2-3D as well?
- Ascaaear 19:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I am sorry about the T-70/Cyberdyne thing... you are right. I read it my self somewhere else too. As much as I want to believe Cyberdyne doesn't exist in T2-3D, I have to face the fact ;)
- Ascaaear 20:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Renaming Series T-X and Series T-1
I seen your wonderful work on the nomenclature on Terminator. I notice that most Series are named "Series 800", "Series 600" etc, without the "T". On T-X and T1 it is different, then it is called "Series T-X" and "Series T1". To me it looks odd using the "T" here, when it is not on the others. I think we can agree that the "T" stands for Terminator on all models using the "T". So I just ask what you think? Should we let it be like it is, or extrapolate the name and rename it to "Series X" and "Series 1"? Ascaaear 15:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that Series X and Series 1 would be more consistent with the nomenclature used by Cameron in Terminator 1, 2, & 3D. However some consideration should be given to the fact that T3 screwed up such things a little. We could chalk it up to errors on the part of the T3 producers, or it could be deliberate; since all previous futures were Cyberdyne based, but the T3 future is Cyber Research Systems based.
- In other words, I would support such a move, but it also would not bother me if consensus ended up being to keep them at the T3 style names. I have been absent recently because my school work (I am a teacher and a grad student) has been time consuming as of late, but I will be back more actively in a month or so. (I pop in once a week these days to check on things.) —MJBurrage(T•C) 17:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. I dont mind having them named "Series X" and "Series 1". I even dont see that messing up with T3 at all. In T3 they name them T1 or T-X just like they name T-800 in the other movies. My question... does they really say that it is a "Series T-X" or "Series T1"? I also have been busy with other stuff... I just pop into this wiki, to just keep up to date. I hope I can come back soon and finish the terminator comic section. Ascaaear 18:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Humanoid Hunter Killer Unit
Hello MJBurrage! Could I ask you to weigh in here: Talk:Humanoid Hunter Killer Unit? There's some nomenclature discussions going on, and I really value your perspective on the subject! --Kanamekun 13:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)